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What Moves Us is the Rail Innovation Group's podcast. We talk to members, innovators, and the people inside rail about the human side of transport innovation: how new ideas get adopted, who makes them happen, and what gets in the way.
Hosted by Liam Henderson (Chair) and Johannah Randall (Head of Engagement), with regular contributions from Deb Carson (Head of Initiatives). Running since 2019.
What Moves Us is the Rail Innovation Group's podcast. We talk to members, innovators, and the people inside rail about the human side of transport innovation: how new ideas get adopted, who makes them happen, and what gets in the way.
Hosted by Liam Henderson (Chair) and Johannah Randall (Head of Engagement), with regular contributions from Deb Carson (Head of Initiatives). Running since 2019.
Episodes

Tuesday Jun 09, 2026
What Moves Us - From Founders to Forests
Tuesday Jun 09, 2026
Tuesday Jun 09, 2026
This episode of What Moves Us welcomes Gregory Meyers, founder of TreeStock and the Rail Innovation Group's newest member. TreeStock builds digital twins of individual trees, using applied AI, lidar drones and satellite imagery to capture species, health, biomass and timber volume across whole forests.
For rail, the case is direct. Millions of trees line the network, and a single storm can bring them down across the tracks at real cost. Gregory explains how mapping each tree could model wind blow risk, picking out which ones threaten the line before they fall. He also sets out the longer game, a goal to map every tree on the planet by 2030, and why so much tree surveying today still leans on methods that have barely changed in five hundred years.
Before the interview, Deb, Johannah and Liam look back at the launch of the Rail Innovation Group's tenth anniversary series. It was a female founders event, held high above the city at the BT Tower.
The discussion turns on a stark figure, that female founders attract only about two per cent of all venture capital, and on a finding that flipped the premise of the event. Plenty here for anyone working where rail, data, investment and the natural environment meet.

Monday Dec 22, 2025
What Moves Us - 2025 Look-back
Monday Dec 22, 2025
Monday Dec 22, 2025
Our year-end episode brings the team together for a quick look back and a clear look ahead. We reflect on how the Skills Beyond Scale work shaped 2025, and we revisit highlights including the Heathrow Express Supplier Challenge and a growing, engaged community. We outline plans for 2026: a milestone year marking the Rail Innovation Group’s tenth anniversary!
Featuring the Rail Innovation Group leaders: Liam Henderson, Deb Carson and Johannah Randall

Wednesday Dec 03, 2025
Wednesday Dec 03, 2025
Liam is joined by friend of the pod, OpenTransport Initiative's Hayden Sutherland, to unpack three fast-moving themes from Rail Live in Madrid. They compare what was promised on stage with what is actually being built, digging into where agentic AI is useful, where it struggles with complex, high-stakes choices, and why good visual UX still beats long conversational lists. The pair link this to the hard graft behind the scenes, from data quality and APIs to cross-sector standards and interoperability, with a wry metro mishap reminding us that a capable human still matters. For startups, the takeaway is clear. Do fewer shiny demos and invest in richer, trustworthy data and integration so your product scales beyond an MVP.
railinnovationgroup.com
opentransport.co.uk
terrapinn.com/conference/rail-live/index.stm

Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
What Moves Us - Looking Forward to the Heathrow Express Supplier Challenge
Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
In this episode, we sit down with Chris Jones from Heathrow Express—the team behind the 15-minute airport express—to hear how they’re throwing open the doors to new suppliers.
Heathrow Express is inviting startups and SMEs to help solve three real-world challenges:
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easing the pain of staff travel through airport security,
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showcasing and strengthening the premium passenger experience, and
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cracking the “last mile” connection beyond Paddington.
These aren’t theoretical ideas. They’re live problems waiting for practical, scalable solutions.
It all leads to the Heathrow Express Supplier Challenge on 9 December—a one-day, Dragons’ Den-style event where innovators will pitch directly to Heathrow Express and Heathrow Airport decision-makers. Expect a hands-on day: a ride out from Paddington, live pitches at Heathrow, and evening networking with the people who can actually make things happen.
If you build digital tools, passenger tech, or data-driven services and have ever thought “we could make rail run better,” this is your moment.
🎟️ Find out more and register here: Heathrow Express Supplier Challenge on Eventbrite
Tune in, get inspired, and get ready to step onto the platform.

Monday Sep 15, 2025
Monday Sep 15, 2025
In our latest episode, Johannah and Liam are joined by Rail Innovation Group member Pipcall's Johan Gericke and end user Miles Allcock. We dig into the upcoming requirement for trackside verbal communications to be recorded across the supply chain, not just by Network Rail control rooms. Johan explains what the rule means in practice for contractors and suppliers, and how mobile call recording can close the gaps when personal or site mobiles are used on track. Miles shares how access to recordings can protect everyone involved in safety critical work.
This episode covers the tech that makes this solution workable in the field: cellular call recording rather than VoIP for clearer, more reliable audio, and the “phone-within-a-phone” set-up.
Show link
Pipcall guide: Call recording for safety-critical communications in rail: https://www.pipcall.com/resource/call-recording-for-safety-critical-communications-in-rail

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
In this episode, we speak with Tara Walsh, Project Manager for the Innovation Acceleration Forum within Network Rail’s Capital Delivery team. Tara shares how the Forum helps streamline the path from promising idea to practical adoption: supporting innovators with open conversations, clear feedback, and guidance through trials, product acceptance, and procurement.
We explore how technical and non-technical voices work together to assess whether a product solves a real problem, saves time or money, and is truly scalable and sustainable. Tara offers insight into the challenges of rolling out innovations across a large, complex organisation—and why success isn’t just about flashy tech, but about doing the basics well and understanding the business need.
Plus, we unpack the cultural shift underway in rail, where teams are beginning to ask: What else can we do? and How can we do things differently? Tara’s top tip for innovators? Keep it sharp, relevant, and focused—don’t bring a like-for-like solution and expect to impress.

Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
What Moves Us – Innovation Beyond the Lightbulb Moment
Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
In this episode, Johannah and Liam speak with Philip Pozzo di Borgo-Oliver, Managing Partner at Eureka!Europe, a consultancy that helps organisations build the internal capability to innovate—whether they're early-stage start-ups or established corporates.
We explore the journey from idea to implementation: how to embed innovation culture across a business, how to overcome or manage projects through the business cycles that stall progress, and whether your organisation is innovating to create something new or simply to remove internal barriers. Philip brings sharp insights into Innovation Engineering, and shares his observations on the UK rail sector—highlighting how political uncertainty can undermine morale and momentum for change.
If you've ever wondered how to turn a "Eureka!" moment into a real-world result, or how to nurture innovation in systems not built to move fast, this one’s for you.

Monday Jun 02, 2025
What Moves Us: Why Absence Isn’t Always Sickness
Monday Jun 02, 2025
Monday Jun 02, 2025

Thursday Apr 03, 2025
What Moves Us: Mind the Gap – Where Rail Needs to Innovate
Thursday Apr 03, 2025
Thursday Apr 03, 2025
What Moves Us – Episode 5: Mind the Gap – Where Rail Needs to Innovate
In this episode, we explore the innovation gap in rail and ask: will technology meet changing passenger expectations?
As behaviours shift, so do the demands on service delivery - but who has the oversight, authority, and appetite to invest in transformative tech? With the rail industry edging toward greater centralisation, could nationalisation actually make it easier to innovate, thanks to better collaboration and less duplication across the network?
We unpack the opportunities and complexities of procurement in a nationalised industry, and what this means for start-ups trying to gain traction in rail.
We also tackle one of the industry's biggest challenges: how to attract the next generation of engineers, developers, and digital talent. What will it take to make rail an attractive career destination?
This episode links to our upcoming event, Becoming the Employer of Choice, and continues the conversation on how the rail sector can position itself to recruit, retain and inspire the talent needed to drive innovation forward. For more details head to: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/the-rail-innovation-group-12086193246

Friday Mar 28, 2025
What Moves Us: Is Now the Moment for Start-ups to Supply into Rail?
Friday Mar 28, 2025
Friday Mar 28, 2025
In this fourth instalment of our How to be a Start-Up in Rail series, we dive into the critical material that start-ups need to navigate the rail sector: the challenges, the opportunities, and why there’s never been a more exciting time to get involved.
We ask the big question: Is now the moment for start-ups to supply into rail? With a growing recognition from government of the barriers small tech companies face, and the need to embrace technology to drive efficiency, is there finally a plan to improve access and make the most of what start-ups have to offer?
We highlight how small companies—agile and tech-driven—are often best placed to bring cutting-edge solutions to market quickly.
The GB rail ecosystem is brimming with the talent, ideas, and energy needed to drive digitisation, boost sustainability, and improve passenger experience. But what’s the best route in? Should start-ups look to collaborate with larger, established suppliers to fast-track their journey—especially ahead of the formation of Great British Railways?
We also unpack different start-up mindsets: those aiming for scale and exit, and those in it for the long haul.
Finally, we offer practical guidance on accessing funding, especially R&D grants—ideal for early-stage support—and share top tips for writing a strong application: start early, be clear, and prepare well.
Find out more about the Rail Innovation Group at: railinnovationgroup.com
